SbfRecalc

[Dumba]

Meiner Einer will by tomorrow have a test version of SbfRecalc for the Cliq. But it will need testing. The addresses might be overlapping and out of bounds. The primary Address or RDL used to be at 100h. It isn't anymore.
So anybody interested in testing, on own risk, please post here.

[Danation]

Hm... what's the risk of permanent damage?

[Dumba]

Will be explained by tomorrow. I will translate for Meiner Einer. At the moment, the version will work to find the root, but while recalculating, some info might be lost due to overlap of adresses, which are not known for sure. We have no table. So it has to be found out this way.

[Danation]

As long as Meiner Einer is comfortable that it likely won't brick my phone, I will try it.

I mean, I know there's always risks, but as long as he's fairly reasonably confident, I will try it.

[j_r0dd]

i am definitely willing to test. i am noob when it comes to moto stuff but not new when it comes to Android. Worst case scenario we just re-flash the firmware from the other thread?? What SbfRecalc anyways? Does this allow us to extract and edit SHX files??

[fornowiamnothing]

I'll love to try it, perhaps replacing the locked parts like this might work ^^

[Meiner Einer]

Here now this update

I hope, its works...

A report in german will follow and Dumba will translate it.


Ich habe Recalc soweit geupdatet, wie es möglich ist.
Da ich bisher keine Tabelle im RDL gefunden habe, die die maximale Größe der jeweiligen CG angibt, mußte ich die Prüfung dafür deaktivieren.
Vielleicht finden wir sie ja noch gemeinsam...

Die Funktionen "Write New Descriptor" und "Remove Ask for Lock" sind benutzbar, aber nicht getestet, da ich kein entsprechendes Handy habe.
Also bitte Vorsicht!

Zu SBF-Recalc selbst: Man sollte einen PC benutzen, der mindestens 1 GB RAM hat oder mehr. SBF-Recalc ist sehr speicherintensiv. Auf meinem eigenen Rechner mit 3GB RAM lief es problemlos.


Bugreports, Fehler und auch Erfolge bitte hier berichten oder an Dumba oder via PM in meinem Heimatforum, Faq4Mobiles, Adresse darf ich nach den hier geltenden Gesetzen nicht angeben (steht aber im Programm).

Die Benutzung von SBF-ReCalc erfolgt auf eigene Gefahr. Ich hafte nicht für Schäden, die dadurch entstehen.



Vielen Dank für eure Bereitschaft zum Testen und erfolgreiches Flashen...

Meiner Einer


Dumba's translation into English:

I have updated Recalc as good as is possible.
Since I have so far not found any table in the RDL, which specifies the maximum size of the CG, I had to disable the check for it.
Perhaps we will find this working together...

The functions "Write New Descriptor" and "Remove Ask for Lock" are usable, but not tested, because I have no corresponding phone.
So please be careful!

For SBF-Recalc itself: You should use a PC that has at least 1 GB of RAM or more. SBF-Recalc is memory intensive. On my own computer with 3GB of RAM, it ran smoothly.


Bug reports, errors and success, please write and add here, or send a PM to Dumba ,or send me a PM in my Homeforum, Faq4Mobiles. Google the site, due to differences ,regarding the copyright laws in the USA and Germany, MMM can't link directly. But it is included in the program.

The use of SBF-recalc is at your own risk. I am not liable for damages caused by it.



Thank you for your willingness to test and successful flashing ...

[Dumba]

Thanks Meiner Einer. hope we can get root access with it now. That would be party time all over, And I would owe you a drink, once I get near your place.

[kuipou]

what does it do actually?

[Dumba]

It takes the software apart, so the modding can start, In easy words.
It does nothing to the phone as such, if you want to use it, you need to download from phone, then recalc, then alter, then upload, and then we will see.
This has been adapted to the Cliq in the dry, without actual phone, so lets test, improve and make it perfect, in case it isn't already.

[Danation]

Since we can't back up these phones, we'll have to take existing firmwares and modify them and flash them.

Should be exciting

I'm not sure about exact terminology on Android phones, but is the bootloader or whatever it may be called included in firmware files? Or does it just stay on the phone?

[Skrilax_CZ]

We don't know atm.

[Dumba]

I would translate Danations question into German,but then it might lose its meaning. Anyway, Danation asks if the Bootloader is in the firmware, or if it stays untouched in the phone.

Bleibt der Bootloader unveraendert, oder ist dieser ein Teil der Firmware?

[Meiner Einer]

Dieser Flash ist komplett anders aufgebaut als die bisher bekannten.

Er enthält nur den RAMDOWNLOADER und die CG2.

Das besondere daran: Diese CG2 enthält alle Partitionen des Betriebssystems - also die komplette FW.
Im Bild kann man das gut sehen. Deshalb ist die CG2 auch so extrem groß diesmal.


Normalerweise ist der Bootloader Bestandteil des Handys und wird durch das normale flashen nicht verändert. Das geht nur mit speziellen Flashes: "Bootloader_Consumer_Replacer" oder bei der Herstellung der Handys mit "Image"-Flashes (das erstmalige bespielen des Handys)

Wie es allerdings hier ist - ich weiß es auch nicht genau...

Da Motorola aber die grundsätzliche Struktur der Flashfiles beibehalten hat, sollte der Bootloader auch hier unverändert bleiben.
Er sollte also nicht Teil der Firmware sein, die in diesem Flash in der CG2 enthalten ist.

Allerdings übernehme ich keine Garantie für diese Aussage. Ich kann mich nur darauf beziehen, was ich von den "alten" Flashfiles weiß.

Dumba translation:

This Flash ihas a completely different structure than the previously known.

It contains only the RAMDOWNLOADER and CG2.

The special fact: This CG2 contains all the partitions of the operating system - ie. the complete FW.
In the picture you may check that. Therefore, the CG2 is so extremely large and extended this time.


Normally, the boot loader is part of the mobile phone and is not affected by the normal flash. That's only possible with special Flashes: "Bootloader_Consumer_Replacer" or for the manufacture of the mobile phones with "image" flashes (the first ever record on the phone)

As it is is in this instance, I can't tell either for sure ...

Since, however Motorola has retained the basic structure of your Flash files, the boot loader should also remain unchanged.
It should therefore not be part of the firmware that is included in the flash memory in the CG2.

However, I assume no warranty for this statement. I can only relate to what I know about the 'old' Flash file.

[j_r0dd]

I would assume that the firmware file is a full flash which should flash everything. How can we open or edit the split files recalc spits out?
Actually after translating some of Meiner Einer's last post I think I may be wrong lol