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    Question [Question4Devs] Building AOSP w/ built kb7sqi kernel

    I've been lurking on this forum for a long long time now and I would like to thank every dev for their contributions.

    I have one question that I cannot seem to find anywhere on these forums nor on any other forum for that matter. I know how to build a kernel from source, I know how to build Cyanogen's rom (via his wiki) but I cannot find out how to use a compiled kernel (kb7sqi's kernel in this case) to build AOSP.
    There really aren't any guides on this forum about creating a Rom from beginning to end, start to finish. I know that this is a development forum but theres barely any discussion about development (da nitty gritty) on here! (No offense)
    It would be nice if a dev can create a vid, a guide, or something that shows how he pieces the kernel and the System together. I mean to be honest, the concept of compiling and syncing projects using git/repo isn't all that difficult to grasp, but it seems to be a bit more confusing with this Motorola/MotoDev stuff.

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    Yeah, things have been dying around here. Something like a guide would be nice. Just to get more Devs in this community. I could perhaps become one.
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    Well, from the start, there were barely any guides to do anything on the cliq. And I'm most definitely not a n00d neither. You don't even need to know how to code to make roms (to a degree of course)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrice43 View Post
    Well, from the start, there were barely any guides to do anything on the cliq. And I'm most definitely not a n00d neither. You don't even need to know how to code to make roms (to a degree of course)!
    Removing apps, reskinning the framework, changing the ui, repacking the rom and signing hardly qualifies as deving to me. From most of the ROMs on this site that I have seen I would consider it more a tweaker forum. I do appreciate the work that people are doing because it is a time consuming hobby.

    To OP: what I have been doing is more trial and error by taking information from various forums and making something work. From what I am gathering Motorola is very stingy with the sources needed to make all of the hardware work with the new OSes. ie. 2.1 and 2.2. For some reason the Cliq is being treated like the evil step child.
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    I don't consider removing apps, reskinning framework, and repacking the rom developing at all. I consider that "modifying" if you want to give it a name. I respect all the devs but I know who to give real credit to. And that doesn't mean I'm going to get on my hands and knees and praise them like gods neither. It's not like none of them get compensation (cough* adsense) But it's all good.

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    Oh I thought you meant that you consider that developing, I missed the 'hardly' in your post lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrice43 View Post
    I don't consider removing apps, reskinning framework, and repacking the rom developing at all. I consider that "modifying" if you want to give it a name. I respect all the devs but I know who to give real credit to. And that doesn't mean I'm going to get on my hands and knees and praise them like gods neither. It's not like none of them get compensation (cough* adsense) But it's all good.
    if the slamming continues i will just close this thread. if you want to build the moto kernel, maybe use the search feature of this site instead of slamming people. there is a thread with instructions. also there is a readme file included in the moto source that tells you how to build it.
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    All petty arguments aside, it would indeed be nice to have such a guide.

    I don't remember seeing one. If there is one, though, will you post the link, j_r0dd?

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    I already know how to build the kernel, that wasn't the question being asked. Maybe you should read the post, I've already used the search feature. And I don't see how I was slamming anyone, that's not what I do. I'm just sharing my opinion on what I consider "development". If you wanna close the thread then close it. I'm not trying to cause any trouble, I just want a question answered and have a 'real' development forum instead of a forum with a bunch of irrelevant stuff. Ya know?

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    wait,so youre telling me i can develop a kernel so we can overclock?

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    1st of all my apologies for misreading. i thought you were trying to build the kernel from kb7sqi's source. i sometimes take things personal when people share their opinions here on the whole Cliq community. My opinion is compiling from source doesn't make you a dev either. It's not hard to type "make". with that being said, back to the topic...

    there is no vendor tree for the cliq. i am attaching the buildspec.mk that was passed around from barak, kb7sqi, travis & I. put that in the build folder and this will get you a generic build that will at least boot. the "out" directory will contain a ramdisk directory. you need to pair the kernel you compiled with the ramdisk to get the boot.img. directions here HOWTO: Unpack, Edit, and Re-Pack Boot Images - Android Wiki. then you need to add the proprietary files (from /bin, /lib , /etc). i don't know what each and every one is. but if you are trying to make a fully working 2.1 you will need to extract the kernel from the boot.img from a 2.1 rom. i hope that helps a little
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    Thank you kind sir!
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    My opinion is compiling from source doesn't make you a dev either. It's not hard to type "make". with that being said, back to the topic...
    Lol I don't believe that I've ever said that but OKAY.

    Thanks for the info though. It's very helpful. I'm surprised that it has never been mentioned.

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    No need for buildspec file to start building the AOSP tree. This is fully documented in Google sources. Pairing with a working kernel (compiled by urself or one u take ) is already explained also here. So I don't miss any info to start doing what u say. Of course that won't make a fully working Rom. What did Travis & Barak in E 2C is invest a lot of time to fix the broken parts.
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    Any links? I've already look through the AOSP documentation and then looked through it again specifically for the info on pairing kernel. I mean, I'm sure it would not only be helpful for me but also helpful for everybody else looking the forums.

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    The link I put in my previous post has scripts for this. unpack-bootimg.pl & repack-bootimg.pl
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